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Posted on 27 sierpnia, 2017
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Twój ojciec jest pianistą, więc to, że zostałaś muzykiem, wydaje się być oczywiste, choć Twoja droga na estradę nie była prosta. Nie od razu poszłaś do szkoły muzycznej, dużo miejsca w Twoim życiu zajmował tenis, zdobyłaś nawet mistrzostwo Warszawy juniorów młodszych. Dlaczego wybrałaś muzykę i porzuciłaś sport?
Mój ojciec jest pianistą klasycznym i całe dzieciństwo słuchałam, jak ćwiczy. Zdarzało mi się chodzić na jego koncerty, z dumą patrzyłam na niego, kiedy występował np. w Filharmonii Narodowej. Niestety, mimo moich zdolności muzycznych nie zadbał o moje wykształcenie muzyczne. Nie miał do tego cierpliwości. Do szkoły muzycznej zdałam, gdy sama podjęłam taką decyzję. Miałam 17 lat. Wcześniej cztery lata spędzałam niemal dzień w dzień na kortach tenisowych. Moja mama grała rekreacyjnie i dzięki niej zaczęłam trenować. Okazało się, że dobrze mi idzie i lubię wyczerpujące fizycznie treningi. Porzuciłam tenis w wieku 14 lat. Była to moja świadoma decyzja. Czułam, że nie mam szans na światową karierę, nie zostałabym Agnieszką Radwańską, bałam się, że skończę jak wiele koleżanek tenisistek z kilkoma poważnymi kontuzjami i bez porządnego wykształcenia. Muzyka była mi zawsze bliska, stąd decyzja o zdawaniu do szkoły muzycznej.
Czy nadal grasz w tenisa? Oglądasz turnieje tenisowe?
Niestety, grywam w tenisa bardzo rzadko i od lat już nie śledzę tego, co się dzieje w świecie tenisowym. Muzyka stała się dla mnie najważniejsza.
Podobno chciałaś zostać aktorką, ale im więcej słuchałaś muzyki jazzowej, tym bardziej miałaś ochotę śpiewać. Jakie wokalistki, wokaliści mieli na Ciebie taki wpływ? Czy były to Nina Simone i Abbey Lincoln, którym poświęciłaś swoją ostatnią płytę Remembering Nina & Abbey?
Bardzo chciałam zostać aktorką, w liceum grywałam w spektaklach kółka teatralnego, w klasie maturalnej regularnie chodziłam do teatru. Przygotowywałam się do egzaminu na Wydział Aktorski PWST w Warszawie, ale na kilka tygodni przed egzaminem zrezygnowałam z tych planów. Wybrałam jazz, czyli muzykę wolności. Nigdy tego wyboru nie żałowałam. Nina Simone i Abbey Lincoln są mi niezwykle bliskie, stąd płyta im poświęcona. Ale ukształtowały mnie też Carmen McRae, Joni Mitchell, Shirley Horn czy Chet Baker i Stevie Wonder.
Aktorstwo już Cię nie pociąga?
Nie mam w sobie niedosytu, że nie gram. Oczywiście nie wykluczam, że kiedyś jakaś przygoda z teatrem czy filmem mnie spotka, ale nie szukam takiej okazji. To musiałoby być coś szczególnego, propozycja, która się pojawi, ale nie na siłę. W końcu wokalistki grały ciekawe epizody w filmach. Moją domeną jest śpiew, może kiedyś zaśpiewam w filmie.
Chodziłaś do szkoły podstawowej w Manchesterze. Twoje płyty są głównie anglojęzyczne. Czy śpiewanie po angielsku wydawało Ci się bardziej naturalne niż po polsku?
Śpiewanie po angielsku to naturalna droga dla wokalistki jazzowej, a moje dwie polskie płyty z muzyką poetycką to ukłon w kierunku wspaniałych poetów i poetek, to zanurzenie się w tematyce innej niż świat amerykańskich standardów jazzowych. Śpiewanie po polsku jest trudniejsze, bo to język, który jest wyzwaniem dla dobrej dykcji. Angielski znam od dziecka, dlatego nie odczuwam tego, że śpiewam w języku obcym. To mój drugi język.
Piszesz teksty do utworów, które wykonujesz tylko po angielsku. Jeżeli śpiewasz po polsku, to wybierasz teksty poetów. Łatwiej pisze Ci się po angielsku?
Tak, po angielsku umiem ubrać myśli w słowa w sposób bardziej naturalny. Prosty przekaz nie razi, moim zdaniem po polsku jest z tym gorzej. Dlatego sięgam do naszej świetnej poezji. Jest z czego wybierać.
Mówiłaś wielokrotnie, że Twoje nazwisko panieńskie – Skrzypek – było zbyt trudne do wymówienia, dlatego wybrałaś pseudonim. Skrót imienia Agnieszka wydaje się naturalny, ale dlaczego przyjęłaś nazwisko Zaryan?
To na pamiątkę po moim dziadku Janie Zarańskim, cudownym człowieku, powstańcu warszawskim. Zarański Jan, czyli Zaryan, skrót jego imienia i nazwiska. Pseudonim brzmi międzynarodowo, teraz można mnie łatwiej zapamiętać.
Jeździłaś do Stanów na warsztaty jazzowe, chciałaś poznać kolebkę jazzu? W tej chwili część muzyków, z którymi współpracujesz, jest z USA. Czy są inni od polskich jazzmanów?
W Polsce mamy świetnych muzyków, mam tu swoje wspaniałe trio, z którym od lat regularnie koncertuję i nagrywam. Czasami mam jednak potrzebę nagrania albumu poza Polską i pracy z muzykami, których również podziwiam, dlatego zaprosiłam na ostatnią płytę Geri Allen i Briana Blade’a. Wymarzyłam sobie ich udział i marzenie się spełniło. Spędzenie z nimi kilku dni, próby i nagrania – były fantastycznym doświadczeniem. Jazz to muzyka improwizacji, gdzie trzeba się odważyć na nowe doświadczenia, stąd pomysł współpracy z różnymi artystami. Poznanie kolebki jazzu jest fascynujące, od czasu do czasu wracam tam, żeby doładować baterie i dostać wiatru w żagle.
„Nagrody nobilitują, cieszą, napędzają do dalszej pracy, ale nie dla nich się tworzy.”
Szukając informacji o Tobie, można przeczytać mnóstwo komplementów na temat Twojego głosu, interpretacji, kultury muzycznej. To wszystko nie szło jednak w parze z natychmiastowym sukcesem i karierą. Trudno w Polsce zrobić karierę jazzową?
W Polsce w branży muzycznej nie jest łatwo, żaden artysta nie powinien się nastawiać na natychmiastową karierę. Czasem sukces nigdy nie przyjdzie, a innym razem może spaść na nas jak grom z jasnego nieba. To, czy nam się uda, zależy od wielu czynników. Najważniejsza jest konsekwencja; to, żeby nie zbaczać ze swojej drogi. Oprócz tego trzeba mieć szczęście do ludzi. Kiedy spotka się odpowiednie osoby w odpowiednim czasie i zarazi się ich swoją wizją muzyki, można liczyć, że się uda. Bez menadżera może być bardzo ciężko.
W 2007 r. nagrałaś pierwszą płytę po polsku: Umiera piękno. Dotykała ona ważnej i bolesnej historii powstania warszawskiego. Czy to względy rodzinne zdecydowały o oddaniu hołdu powstańcom?
Dziadkowie byli powstańcami, ale to nie był jedyny powód nagrania tego albumu. To temat ogólnopolski. Uważam, że ważna jest pamięć o tych, którzy zginęli podczas powstania. Tym albumem na swój sposób oddaję im cześć.
Druga Twoja płyta po polsku to Księga olśnień poświęcona Czesławowi Miłoszowi. Znajdziemy tu jego wiersze, ale także trzech innych cenionych przez niego poetek. Zdecydowałaś się wydać ten krążek w dwóch wersjach: polskiej i angielskiej. Dlaczego?
Kiedy koncertujemy na świecie, śpiewam wersje anglojęzyczne, w Polsce po polsku. Chciałam móc promować poezję naszego noblisty poza naszym krajem. Ta sama piosenka śpiewana w dwóch innych językach brzmi zupełnie inaczej.
Jesteś laureatką Fryderyka, ośmiokrotnie zostałaś Wokalistką Roku magazynu „Jazz Forum”. Czy te nagrody sprawiają, że czujesz się doceniona, bardziej pewna siebie?
Nagrody nobilitują, cieszą, napędzają do dalszej pracy i do rozwoju, stawiają poprzeczkę wyżej, ale nie dla nich się tworzy. To miły dodatek do obranej drogi i potwierdzenie, że ta droga ma sens nie tylko dla mnie, ale też dla moich słuchaczy. Dobrze mieć do nagród dystans, gdyż raz się jest na fali, ale można też nagle znaleźć się poza nią i trzeba mieć siłę, by dalej pracować.
Po raz drugi zostałaś mamą. Jak to zmienia Twoje podejście do muzyki i tworzenia?
Jestem podwójną mamą. Narodziny dziecka to moment, kiedy świat się zatrzymuje i staje się piękniejszy. Zdecydowałam się na dzieci, mając trzydzieści parę lat, czekałam, aż sama dojrzeję, nasycę się życiem bezdzietnym. Teraz spełniam się nie tylko poprzez śpiew, ale i w rodzinie. Jest czas dla dzieci i czas na nowe projekty – to są dwie zupełnie inne przestrzenie, ale istnieją równolegle. Da się je pogodzić, chociaż trzeba umieć iść na kompromisy. Nie wiem, czy doświadczenie macierzyństwa zmieniło moje podejście do muzyki. Wydaje mi się, że nie nastąpiła żadna rewolucja, ale zmieniłam się jako osoba. Jestem bardziej cierpliwa.
Czy zamierzasz chwilowo zawiesić swoją działalność muzyczną? Jakie są Twoje plany zawodowe na najbliższą przyszłość?
Nie mam powodu zawieszać działalności muzycznej. To jest moja pasja, bez muzyki i koncertowania po kilku tygodniach więdnę. Czasem cisza jest potrzebna, żeby mózg wypoczął i pojawiły się nowe pomysły, ale na dłuższą metę życie bez muzyki byłoby dla mnie katorgą. Śpiewałam z wielką przyjemnością w ciąży, teraz, po narodzinach, wracam już za kilka tygodni na scenę. Zapraszam na moją stronę na Facebooku, tam pojawiają się na bieżąco wszystkie informacje o naszych koncertach. Sporo będzie się też działo tej jesieni i zimy. W zeszłym roku skończyłam 40 lat. Liczę na to, że następny rok rzyniesie mi wiele ciekawych muzycznych doświadczeń. W końcu jazz, jak wino, z wiekiem smakuje coraz lepiej.
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